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		<title>Is IQ Legitimate or B.S.?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is the idea of IQ legit or total B.S.? With the replication crisis in social science, it&#8217;s worth asking this since a number of major psychology findings didn&#8217;t hold up under scrutiny. To find out, at Clearer Thinking, we ran a massive study. We tested thousands of people performing random subsets of 62 diverse cognitive [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Is the idea of IQ legit or total B.S.? With the replication crisis in social science, it&#8217;s worth asking this since a number of major psychology findings didn&#8217;t hold up under scrutiny.</p>



<p>To find out, at Clearer Thinking, <a href="https://www.clearerthinking.org/post/what-s-really-true-about-intelligence-and-iq-we-empirically-tested-40-claims">we ran a massive study</a>.</p>



<p>We tested thousands of people performing random subsets of 62 diverse cognitive tasks (vocab, math, logic, pattern recognition, reaction time, games, memorization, mental rotation, language learning, etc.)</p>



<p>We successfully replicated a classic finding: performance on nearly all cognitive tasks correlates positively with performance on the other tasks—a phenomenon known as the &#8220;positive manifold,&#8221; foundational to IQ.</p>



<p>IQ scores explained ~45% of variation across our diverse cognitive tasks, aligning with previous research. That&#8217;s very substantial for a single number (IQ score), but also far from capturing everything.</p>



<p>Some of the remaining 55% variance is pure noise; the rest likely comes from task skill (developed through practice) and task-specific aptitudes (likely influenced by both genetics and childhood experiences).</p>



<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that while IQ is predictive of a diverse range of intelligence tasks, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily capture ALL that&#8217;s meant by intelligence. It&#8217;s unclear if it includes &#8220;street smarts,&#8221; social skills, or deep nature skills (like hunter-gatherers have).</p>



<p>We confirmed IQ predicts interesting outcomes:</p>



<p>• Actively open-minded thinking (r=0.43)</p>



<p>• Household income (weakly, r=0.15)</p>



<p>• Self-reported job performance (for lower IQ ranges only, r=0.48)</p>



<p>• Celebrity worship (substantially negatively correlated with IQ, r=-0.42)</p>



<p>• No link to happiness or life satisfaction.</p>



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<p>IQ captures something—but WHAT? There&#8217;s no consensus. Theories include that IQ is&#8230;</p>



<p>• A single cognitive resource</p>



<p>• Working memory + executive control</p>



<p>• A measure of brain integration</p>



<p>• The result of overlapping cognitive processes</p>



<p>• The top of a hierarchy of abilities</p>



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<p>Guess what&#8217;s a BETTER predictor of major life outcomes than IQ?</p>



<p>The Big Five personality traits.</p>



<p>In our data, openness, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism (when all 5 are used together) outperformed IQ at predicting most outcomes.</p>



<p>IQ clearly matters—it unavoidably jumps out from the data when testing people on a diverse range of cognitive tasks.</p>



<p>And yet&#8230;</p>



<p>IQ is far from being all that matters and is definitely not destiny.</p>



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<p>We used the data from our study to create a new cognitive assessment, which analyzes ability across 7 dimensions and aims to provide you with useful insights about your mind.</p>



<p>If you&#8217;d like to take it, you can do so here:</p>



<p><a href="https://programs.clearerthinking.org/cognitive-test-intro.html">https://programs.clearerthinking.org/cognitive-test-intro.html</a></p>



<p>(Proceeds support our mission.)</p>



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<p><em>This piece was first written on March 25, 2025, and first appeared on my website on May 15, 2025.</em></p>



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		<title>People often ask &#8211; why do girls like bad boys? But do women like bad guys, or do they actually prefer “powerful good guys”?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[People often talk about how women are attracted to &#8220;bad guys&#8221; and don&#8217;t actually like the &#8220;nice guys,&#8221; or they ask, &#8220;Why do girls like bad boys?&#8221; or &#8220;Why do girls like mean guys?&#8221; In my opinion, these views are based on misunderstandings of what is attractive. It&#8217;s definitely true that some women are attracted [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>People often talk about how women are attracted to &#8220;bad guys&#8221; and don&#8217;t actually like the &#8220;nice guys,&#8221; or they ask, &#8220;Why do girls like bad boys?&#8221; or &#8220;Why do girls like mean guys?&#8221; In my opinion, these views are based on misunderstandings of what is attractive.</p>



<p>It&#8217;s definitely true that <em>some</em> women are attracted to traits like narcissism, callousness, and manipulativeness (and some unusual women even go so far as to write letters to serial killers to get to know them). In my experience, though, attraction to traits like these is actually quite rare (I can only think of two friends who are substantially attracted to those traits <em>in particular</em>).</p>



<p>Much more commonly, I believe, women tend to be attracted to traits that have a tendency to be <em>found among bad guys</em> (but which are not exclusive to bad guys), like:</p>



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<li>confidence (or, at least, the appearance of it)</li>



<li>lack of neediness (e.g., they aren&#8217;t sitting around waiting for the woman to call, they aren&#8217;t clingy)</li>



<li>independence and not being overly concerned with what other people think of you (or, at least, the <em>appearance</em> of not caring)</li>



<li>self-determination, knowing what you want and going after it intensely</li>



<li>strength (emotional and physical)</li>



<li>making the woman feel extremely desired and special</li>



<li>charisma (intensity, presence, high energy)</li>



<li>assertiveness</li>



<li>self-respect (e.g., not letting others take advantage of you)</li>



<li>power (e.g., you can get things done effectively in the world, others respect you, high status)</li>
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<p>I know a lot of women who are attracted to the traits on the list above.<br>So, yes, many women are attracted to bad boys, but I believe that&#8217;s mainly because bad boys have a tendency to have (or, at least, <em>appear</em> to have) a number of these other desirable qualities.<br>Women are often attracted to traits found among bad guys, but thankfully, these traits are also found among what you might call &#8220;powerful good guys.&#8221;</p>



<p>The regular (non-powerful) &#8220;nice guy&#8221; stereotype invokes a sense of:</p>



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<li>low confidence</li>



<li>weakness, patheticness, neediness</li>



<li>a sense of entitlement or a lack of responsibility</li>



<li>low assertiveness</li>



<li>not knowing what you want or not pursuing what you want</li>



<li>clingy, in need of constant reassurance</li>



<li>lack of charisma (e.g., low energy, lack of presence)</li>



<li>lack of power (e.g., lack of respect, living in their parent&#8217;s basement)</li>



<li>low self-respect (e.g., letting others walk all over you)</li>



<li>an intensity of interest in a woman (bordering on obsessiveness) that can come across as creepy</li>
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<p>On the other hand, there are &#8220;powerful good guys&#8221; who reflect the traits that women tend to like while not being &#8220;bad&#8221; at all.</p>



<p><br>If you are a powerful, good guy, you demonstrate the following:</p>



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<li>a quiet confidence (rather than a bragging narcissistic confidence)</li>



<li>strength that is used to protect others (not to take advantage of or manipulate others)</li>



<li>self-determination, knowing what you want (but with pro-social rather than selfish goals), and going after what you want with intensity (but without violating other people&#8217;s boundaries)</li>



<li>strength and charisma</li>



<li>independence (e.g., strongly desiring to spend time with the woman, but not being clingy or needy, and not being pouty or angry when the woman needs time alone, and having a flourishing and meaningful life outside of your time with the woman)</li>



<li>making the woman feel extremely desired and special (because you genuinely feel this way, and you are not afraid to show it, rather than this being a tactic to get what you want, but also the self-confidence, self-respect, and kindness to fully accept rejection and not get angry over rejection)</li>



<li>assertiveness and self-respect reflecting a healthy expression of desires and enforcement of your own boundaries (not a coercive assertiveness that violates the boundaries of others)</li>



<li>power that comes about through your respect for others and competence (not created through fear or manipulation)</li>



<li>protectiveness that helps you give your loved ones safety (without any coercive control &#8211; a nurturing protectiveness can be very attractive to women, I believe, whether directed at the woman themself or to others like babies, children, and animals)</li>
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<p>There is also a major advantage that powerful good guys have over bad guys &#8211; they are kind and supportive, two traits that women often report caring the <em>most</em> about in their partners.</p>



<p>These good guys also tend to have much happier, healthier relationships (rather than the damaging, often miserable relationships that highly manipulative, narcissistic people tend to have).</p>



<p>So, if you are a guy who wants to become the sort of person who is more attractive to more women, my advice is:</p>



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<li>don&#8217;t aim to become the &#8220;nice guy&#8221; (who can be viewed as pathetic)</li>



<li>don&#8217;t aim to become the &#8220;bad guy&#8221; (who is a dick, or worse)</li>



<li>aim to become the &#8220;powerful good guy&#8221; (who builds happy, healthy, long-term relationships)</li>
</ul>



<p>However, if you&#8217;re not close to any of these types, that&#8217;s also okay, of course! And it&#8217;s totally fine not to aspire to be like any of these archetypes.</p>



<p>Women are very far from a monolith. There are women who are attracted to all sorts of different things (just as there are men who want the opposite of what most men want). But, I claim, the &#8220;powerful good guy&#8221; is a better archetype for thinking about how to be generally attractive than both the &#8220;bad guy&#8221; and the &#8220;nice guy&#8221; archetypes. Plus, as a bonus, modeling the &#8220;powerful good guy&#8221; archetype helps you be a better person in the process.</p>



<p>Women who are attracted to men: I&#8217;d be especially interested in hearing what you think of what I&#8217;m saying here. Do you agree or disagree with my points? I&#8217;d also be really interested to know whether you (or your close friends) are attracted specifically to traits like narcissism, callousness, and manipulativeness, or (insofar as you&#8217;re attracted to &#8220;bad guys&#8221;), do you think you&#8217;re mainly attracted to traits that tend to be associated with being a &#8220;bad guy&#8221; (rather than those potentially harmful traits themselves)?</p>



<p>I&#8217;ll add (thanks to commenters who pointed this out!) there are at least a couple of traits more unique to bad guys that some women do find desirable, in particular, ones that inspire thoughts like &#8220;He&#8217;s an asshole to everyone but me, so that makes me special!&#8221;, and &#8220;Normally no one woman can satisfy him, that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s a philanderer, but his desire for me is so strong that he&#8217;ll commit just to me!&#8221; and &#8220;I know he&#8217;s bad, but I can fix him!&#8221; While some women are, indeed, attracted to these ideas, I think it&#8217;s fair to say that most people would acknowledge these are unhealthy desires that typically end in frustration and failure, and they aren&#8217;t key components of most women&#8217;s attraction to men.</p>



<p><br>Finally, it&#8217;s worth noting that many (but not all) women find sexual dominance attractive (which they may associate with bad boys). But sexual dominance is neither bad nor good and has nothing to do with being good or bad <em>per se</em> (though sometimes people enjoy having it mimic bad behavior, such as with r*pe fantasies). In other words, sexual dominance is a neutral behavior that is equally compatible with being a powerful good guy as with being a bad guy. It can be done ethically (if done with consent and with attention to your partner&#8217;s experience) or unethically (if done without consent or with indifference to your partner&#8217;s experience).</p>



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<p><em>This piece was first written on October 25, 2023, and first appeared on this site on January 18, 2024.</em></p>
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