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		By: Gabe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 21:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also relevant, if slightly old (2013): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2013.866527

&quot;Suggested dietary guidance where evidence is sufficiently compelling include (1) limiting or avoiding dairy products to reduce the risk of prostate cancer; (2) limiting or avoiding alcohol to reduce the risk of cancers of the mouth, pharynx, larynx, esophagus, colon, rectum, and breast; (3) avoiding red and processed meat to reduce the risk of cancers of the colon and rectum; (4) avoiding grilled, fried, and broiled meats to reduce the risk of cancers of the colon, rectum, breast, prostate, kidney, and pancreas; (5) consumption of soy products during adolescence to reduce the risk of breast cancer in adulthood and to reduce the risk of recurrence and mortality for women previously treated for breast cancer; and (6) emphasizing fruits and vegetables to reduce risk of several common forms of cancer.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also relevant, if slightly old (2013): <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2013.866527" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2013.866527</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Suggested dietary guidance where evidence is sufficiently compelling include (1) limiting or avoiding dairy products to reduce the risk of prostate cancer; (2) limiting or avoiding alcohol to reduce the risk of cancers of the mouth, pharynx, larynx, esophagus, colon, rectum, and breast; (3) avoiding red and processed meat to reduce the risk of cancers of the colon and rectum; (4) avoiding grilled, fried, and broiled meats to reduce the risk of cancers of the colon, rectum, breast, prostate, kidney, and pancreas; (5) consumption of soy products during adolescence to reduce the risk of breast cancer in adulthood and to reduce the risk of recurrence and mortality for women previously treated for breast cancer; and (6) emphasizing fruits and vegetables to reduce risk of several common forms of cancer.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gabe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 20:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2017/01/universal-healthcare-advice-agree-to-disagree/#comment-21873&quot;&gt;Michael St. Jules&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed - the Global Burden of Disease study found that low intake of fruits was responsible for more diet-related deaths than most other diet-related risk factors they studied, including low intake of vegetables, and that this was true of countries with high as well as low sociodemographic indices... https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(19)30041-8/fulltext]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2017/01/universal-healthcare-advice-agree-to-disagree/#comment-21873">Michael St. Jules</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed &#8211; the Global Burden of Disease study found that low intake of fruits was responsible for more diet-related deaths than most other diet-related risk factors they studied, including low intake of vegetables, and that this was true of countries with high as well as low sociodemographic indices&#8230; <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(19)30041-8/fulltext" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(19)30041-8/fulltext</a></p>
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		By: Michael St. Jules		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;(1) Don’t consume a lot of sugar (at best, it’s “empty calories” and could lead to tooth decay. But some claim it is much worse than that).&quot;

&quot;(12) If you are going to eat something sweet, a piece of fruit is a better bet than candy or sugary baked goods.&quot;

I think these two recommendations might give the impression that people should try to avoid fruit, too. I don&#039;t think this is the consensus, although recommendations often throw fruits and vegetables together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(1) Don’t consume a lot of sugar (at best, it’s “empty calories” and could lead to tooth decay. But some claim it is much worse than that).&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;(12) If you are going to eat something sweet, a piece of fruit is a better bet than candy or sugary baked goods.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think these two recommendations might give the impression that people should try to avoid fruit, too. I don&#8217;t think this is the consensus, although recommendations often throw fruits and vegetables together.</p>
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		By: Michael St. Jules		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2017/01/universal-healthcare-advice-agree-to-disagree/#comment-21869&quot;&gt;ozymandias&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s also https://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch, but not all posts will necessarily get comments, which could be very discouraging. If your post doesn&#039;t get a comment, you could message the mods directly for help (see the sidebar).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2017/01/universal-healthcare-advice-agree-to-disagree/#comment-21869">ozymandias</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch</a>, but not all posts will necessarily get comments, which could be very discouraging. If your post doesn&#8217;t get a comment, you could message the mods directly for help (see the sidebar).</p>
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		By: ozymandias		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2020 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;&#062;&#062; If you think you may be suicidal, or you have made plans for how you might commit suicide, you should call a suicide hotline immediately, and afterward make an appointment with a therapist or psychiatrist to see them as soon as possible (and tell this person about your suicidal thoughts).

Suicide hotlines are not terribly useful IME: I&#039;ve had some bad experiences with poorly trained hotline people, and even at best they&#039;re no different from talking to a friend. It&#039;s also possible that they will call a mental hospital and have you involuntarily committed. 

I&#039;d suggest something like &quot;if you are acutely suicidal, you should talk to a friend, distract yourself, or call a suicide hotline. After an episode of acute suicidality, or if you are newly chronically suicidal, contact a therapist or psychiatrist promptly. Read &lt;a href=&quot;https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/03/22/navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt; this&lt;/a&gt; first to help you understand the sometimes Kafkaesque suicide-related mental health system.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; If you think you may be suicidal, or you have made plans for how you might commit suicide, you should call a suicide hotline immediately, and afterward make an appointment with a therapist or psychiatrist to see them as soon as possible (and tell this person about your suicidal thoughts).</p>
<p>Suicide hotlines are not terribly useful IME: I&#8217;ve had some bad experiences with poorly trained hotline people, and even at best they&#8217;re no different from talking to a friend. It&#8217;s also possible that they will call a mental hospital and have you involuntarily committed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest something like &#8220;if you are acutely suicidal, you should talk to a friend, distract yourself, or call a suicide hotline. After an episode of acute suicidality, or if you are newly chronically suicidal, contact a therapist or psychiatrist promptly. Read <a href="https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/03/22/navigating-and-or-avoiding-the-inpatient-mental-health-system/" rel="nofollow ugc"> this</a> first to help you understand the sometimes Kafkaesque suicide-related mental health system.&#8221;</p>
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